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the latest news and of the week's top stories the hunger strike at guantanamo bay passes the one hundred day mark with inmates risking their lives and in their protest against indefinite detention without charge. u.s. government seizes the phone records of journalists from the associated press sparking media outrage by the white house insists it wasn't involved in the probe. syrian government forces are taking the fight to the rebels in a key town near the lebanese border seen as an entry point for smuggling weapons and mercenaries. and more spies in disguise russian security exposes the cia station chief in moscow as u.s. intelligence has left red faced after getting caught trying to recruit a russian agent.
and broadcasting live from our studios in moscow this is our team i'm sean thomas and glad to have you with us well it's been one hundred three days since the mass hunger strike at guantanamo bay began and it seems of the prisoners aren't going to back down anytime soon over half of the camp's inmates are involved in the protest against indefinite detention without trial and with no timetable for release some of them say they are seeking freedom and through death but the u.s. military is force feeding them to make sure that things don't go that far as artie's going to church you can comments. after years of the natural injustice and indifference and after more than three months of starvation one tunnel detainees have finally got the president that has i'm going to go back at this they've heard these words before as president i will close guantanamo reject the military
commissions act and if you go to the geneva conventions and now we're dead it needs to be closed now congress and again as many times before the white house if it were sponsibility to congress there's much you can do administrative leave without congress without having legislative act even under current restrictions the administration has the power to use national security waivers to release many of these men which it hasn't used it's the charge that well the fear that if you release some of these prisoners that have been accused of being terrorist in the past and and they do something else or you find them going into terrorist organizations you pay a heavy political price for that so many of these men have fallen victim not just to their wrongful capture but also to u.s. politicians assumptions of what they may or may not and we in the future but you
can't you can't will people to maybe you know this is a we're not future police here so far the administration is only response to the crisis of one carnival has been to force feeding troops down detainees nostrils the fact of the matter is that when an individual makes a decision of sound mind makes a decision to refuse food as a political protest then as we said in our joint statement it is not open to the states in those circumstances to force them to do each. and the full speeding here involves the insertion of a cheap of some significant down on the diameter through the nasal passages and into the stomach in the most horrible of circumstances the un special rapporteur on human rights also told me that he was encouraged to hear the. once again expressed commitment to close the prison president of the united states has kuantan a moser problem and yet on the ground for some reason the camp administration continues to treat these men and humanely and to deny them basic dignity for
years the administration has engaged in illegal acrobatics to justify its inaction on guantanamo and it's still not clear how long before people there start dying but one thing is clear the elephant in the room just too big to ignore in washington. the u.s. military recently requested tens of millions of dollars to renovate the prison saying congress has decided to keep it open indefinitely and turning the facility is already costing america a considerable sum take a look at the numbers nine hundred thousand dollars that's the cost for the price of keeping just one detainee there for a year and there's one hundred sixty six inmates at guantanamo many of whom have been held without charge for more than a decade it costs less about twenty five thousand dollars per year to house a convicted prisoner in the u.s. my colleague spoke with most spokesmen. robert duran who denied abuse of the facility. they get what we call a full frisk which is
a pat down search not unlike you'd experience going through airport security if you are selected for secondary screening in the united states it's quick it's full clothing on and it's noninvasive it's not the detainees job to tell the truth the lawyers just repeat what the detainees say that all of the allegations are false and let me ask you about the allegations about the on the safe and inhumane force feeding all those prisoners who are on hunger strike do you deny that the policy of the united states and its to reserve life for lawful means we have currently thirty who are doing and cherilyn lee said that's using a liquid nutrition supplement most of them when they're ordered to do that go compliantly and take it a percentage about a third need to be taken to their cheating it's a procedure that's done in hospitals and nursing homes every day it's not done to harass them but it's done to sustain life to sustain life while we've been hearing
from the medical justice network who is saying that don't deserve accused of colluding in port said that at the camp and that's been agreed on by the world medical association and the u.n. the u.s. and we disagree with them it's a matter of national policies our courts of up held that. sustaining life you lawful means lawful we have a medical protocol where we evaluate detainees based on their weight loss and co-morbidity we allow them to hunger strike that if they get below eighty five percent of body weight some damage could be down we will do the involuntary feeding all of those allegations are false they're not they're not being subject to extreme temperatures they're not being denied food and water the conditions are as good as they can possibly be they had satellite television and they had communal living that all kinds of good things were transparent facility. an attorney for several of the guantanamo inmates says the camp's authorities are trying to crush the
detainees will to starve themselves but are actually giving them even more cause to protest i think what we're seeing is a deliberate tactic. to break the strike i think these these toxic tactics of solitary confinement have these body searches among other things have been used to pressure them and to break the strike i think the camp administration's response since that in terms of conditions at the camps denying what's happening defending their actions entirely have actually just deep into the minds result to continue and one on one point i want to correct as a factual matter is transitions at one time or right now are not decent they are not all main you had most of them now and they are protesting for over three months in conditions of solitary confinement so there is not only a problem. and it's illegal detention without charge at guantanamo right now but a question of serious serious questions about the united states is compliance with the geneva conventions in terms of humane treatment of these that they are in
twenty to twenty four hour solitary confinement right now that's how things are right now over the guantanamo bay hunger strike get yourself up to speed on the events of the past one hundred days that are to dot com there you'll find a complete and comprehensive coverage with comment and analysis from u.s. officials and lawyers and even some former detainees and it's all for you there online. the u.s. just department got embroiled in another surveillance scandal this week after it seized two months of phone records of editors and journalists from the country's biggest news gathering service the associated press was wall has all of the details for us. it's being called an unprecedented government intrusion the justice department secretly collected two months of telephone records from the associated press and its reporters. the a.p. believes this story prompted the secret investigation the cia uncovered
a plot to bomb a u.s. bound airliner a plot originated in yemen and was carried out by al qaeda they arabian peninsula by reporting this al qaeda was put on notice that the cia had an inside look at their activities the a.p. says the justice department did not say why they needed the information but says among the nearly two dozen telephone records collected at least five of them were from reporters working on the story in question this was a very serious. a very serious leak and a very very serious leak. i've been a prosecutor since one thousand nine hundred six and i have to say that this is among if not the most serious it is within the top two or three most serious leaks that never see it put the american people at risk and that is not hyperbole eric holder announced he was recusing himself from this a.p. investigation the prominent news agency condemned the government's actions in
a letter to holder associated press c.e.o. gary pruitt says quote these records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all the news gathering activities undertaken by the a.p. during a two month period provide a roadmap to news gathering operations and disclose information about a.p.'s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know now the a.p. is asking for an explanation as to why the government pulled reporters' phone records without notifying them the worries the effect the news will have on the media and its sources i think the effect on the media has already been felt i mean you have sources that are being shut down. doors just being shot in people's faces now that was probably the intention the intention was to scare. the turn off the faucet in other words from leaks in the wake of the controversy white house press secretary jay carney reiterated the obama administration's dedication to
transparency he believes strongly in the need for the press to be unfettered in its pursuit of investigative journalism he also believes strongly as a citizen and as president in the need to ensure that classified information is not leaked because it can endanger our national security interests there's a balance between transparency and national security has been a delicate one since nine eleven the obama administration has a history of aggressively going after whistleblowers prosecuting more people for leaking classified information than any other administration combined and washington is wall r.t. investigative journalist tony gosling says this probe puts the whole craft of journalism in danger individuals who whistleblowers etc people with stories cannot know can no longer trust the journalists so if they go with confidential information to those journalists and have confidential phone conversations they are not no longer guaranteed those journalists can keep those conversations secret
because the justice department is coming in on a massive truly only whole two month period one can understand it maybe if it's a small investigation over a couple of days or so particular phone line possibly but this is a fishing operation and it is an appalling attack really on the freedom of the press in america by a government in the us which is out of control and ultimately this is the wrong choice of effectively a kind of police state where the government thinks it can do what it wants what we're seeing is erosion of some of the basic civil liberties that we've said for the last thirty forty years this is what we hold dear we're saying that all these terrible al qaeda trying to take those civil liberties away with alcohol or drug taking away our own governments or taking them away. plugging in the flow of illegal weapons in the program we were pulled off the syrian government's offensive in a rebel held a border town seen as a key smuggling route for arms from lebanon. head of the activist groups pointed to human rights violations in bahrain
a local campaign tells us about the kingdom's with new ways of spying on its people her story and more coming up. he's tall and strong to settle this question about britain and europe. david cameron's under increasing pressure to guarantee a vote on the u.k.'s future immediate you have a so much of britain's european populace fear that such a divorce codes the house a strong thing. more news today violence is once again flared up. and these are the images close world we've been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to corporations rule the
the rebels are on the north an area of the city that is the full control over the east in western. side of the city that was dated the center of simplicity is liberated and in a surprise is the syrian army managed to make a full circle around the city fighting position a position fight is the main achievement is to stop that line of supply chain between lebanon and syria most of the fighters from different areas and syria in order to gather in course so of course he had become the capital of pollution this operation moved very slow but it was for these studies traditionally speaking they managed to make first they started from the west from western side of the of the city and veteran areas they control this this zone with some fighters from lebanon some extremist
a group were preparing to go into syria to fight with that or bills they are going to make they were going to make kind of a bigger front in order to fight and expand. the fighting line between government and opposition by this now we have limited the fighting into one city or one into one part of the city the international arena and then to national has started to change with american agreement. it's less acceptable. acceptable for countries like qatar to go against the american will by providing more weapons to that if aleutian. in syria by this it's a kind of a green line for the syrian government forces to go into that it will. say which is that of course now by this no more smuggling will go on. weapons coming from qatar or from other countries. meanwhile russia's calls for a peaceful solution to the syrian conflict have been backed by the united nations
the u.n. chief ban ki moon said an international conference should be held as soon as possible to help the parties enter negotiations but it remains unclear who will speak for the rebels you go to prison off has been following developments in the black sea resort of sochi. well after meeting with russia's leadership the un secretary-general ban ki moon agreed that the conflict in syria could only be resolved in accordance with international law without any foreign military intervention and with the full respect of syria's territorial integrity he also agreed to the idea of putting together this joint conference which would include both the syrian rebels and the authorities now they were also able to establish the list of current stumbling blocks concerning this idea and well first of all currently the opposition is still quite divided it's unclear who would be able to represent it as a whole at such a conference secondly moscow wants to see all the regional players taking part in
such a conference including iran which may cause problems with washington and also if the syrian authorities are ready to take part in such a conference right now then the rebels are making are voicing preconditions which include president assad having to step down but in general ban ki moon's visit continues this diplomatic marathon which will have been witnessing for the past few weeks a lot of officials have been coming to russia discussing syria including u.s. secretary of state the prime ministers of great britain and israel and in general it seems the approach of many nations two ways of resolving the conflict in the country is changing now however there are still many problems including the one with the washington since when john kerry was in moscow it seemed that they were completely on the scene page with russia's leadership but as soon as he left he started calling again for president assad to step down and promised more support of the rebels and that was back just recently by president barack obama himself what's
widely being ignored is the fact that many of these rebels admit that they are receiving directions from international terror organizations including al qaeda there are tons of videos in the web showing horrific acts conducted by rebels including. public executions of captured syrian soldiers there's this just troubling and horrific video of a rebel cutting the horde out of a dead syrian soldiers chest and eating it on camera calling on everybody else to do the same and promising to to continue doing so in the future and also there is the statistic from various international activist groups which basically shows that every time the rebels receive weapons from abroad the violence just spikes humiliated and expelled a cia spy ryan fogle has it now left russia after being busted offering
a million dollars to a russian a security agent in return for assistance newsweek's all red faces at the american embassy in moscow as the identity was also revealed of the cia bureau chief working under the guise of a diplomat medina coach never takes up a story for us ryan fogle was caught in the act trying to recruit a russian special services agent to work for the americans now russia's federal security service has released a photo technical equipment and some other items that were found when he was detained including a compress a map of moscow a large amount of cash and even two weeks to allegedly use as disguises now this is suspected cia agent was offering one million dollars a year for passing on classified information and that was revealed to you know why a taped telephone conversation between full girl and the security agent he was trying to recruit made public by russia's federal security service. you're going up
a storm subordinate to give us more. talk of the war than you want to store attack us because of the mortgages on the bottom of a million little old you want yes it's all someone. i did. such a full bill has been handed over to the american authorities and now faces deportation the f.s.b. told r.t. that was not the first case and recent years since two thousand and eleven there have been in fact four other similar cases one case involved and other american embassy employee who was trying to recruit a russian employee of the national anti terror committee the atlas v. says that there is a striking resemblance to the focal scase and that the cia has gone too far with this spying operations we were particularly outraged by the actions of the american spy dylan benjamin he tried to convince an employee of the russian national
counter-terror committee to hand over classified documents of this department to the cia like mr fogle he was deported from russia we hope the cia would learn their lesson and something like that would never happen again so we decided not to release the information about dylan to the public but apparently they didn't learn that lesson in fogel's case the cia crossed a red line so we have to react according to official instructions. and as average with a juicy spy story at hand the exposure of a cia spy in moscow got the media animated it was a mixture flat for and this believed that their alleged spies quite clumsy recruiting techniques but that's quite a common reaction to the stories like this but still it doesn't make them a new last her last three member of the previous scandals for instance back in two thousand and six russian t.v. showed a documentary exposing several british am-i six agents working in moscow and here is the high concept they used rocks at that time the media laughed at what was
considered a conspiracy theory until a high ranking adviser to the prime minister admitted it's true so rocks weeks compresses and maps as james bond doesn't exactly have much competition right now in thai war activist brian becker has been closely following the spy scandal and says the u.s. is running a continuous covert operation in russia the russian government is calling attention to the fact that the us is doing something of a full court press on russia a shadow war so to speak they have the using the n.g.o.s and the penetration of russian society by us soft power through the n.g.o.s at one level trying to carry out many many intelligence operations to get russians to defect penetrating russian society i think also you watch the u.s. media very favorable coverage to the russian opposition any protest that takes
place in russia even if it's small it's enormous front page coverage while here protest movements in the united states get almost no coverage you see the general scenario being played out of hostility to the russian government even if there is still a magic overtures at another level. and you can do more on those stories that we cover over at our website or to dot com online for you right now. growing military robots in the world they set their sights on the sporting world now head to our web site to learn about the radical security measures being planned for the world cup in brazil. plus bureaucrats in brussels may have their hands full trying to cope with an economic crisis but they're still finding time to impose bizarre restrictions on the use of all of oil in restaurants if the full story on our two dot com. in iraq policemen have been shot dead by unknown gunmen in a series of attacks in the west of the country seven that were killed when
militants attacked checkpoints near the city of and in the city over rubble targeted another checkpoint and police chiefs residents leaving three officers dead and two others wounded no group has claimed immediate responsibility but sunni insurgents frequently target security forces in their efforts to destabilize the country while iraq remains torn by sectarian tensions the situation there is also aggravated by other factors has been ranked the most corrupt country in the world a decade after the us invasion millions of dollars earmarked for rebuilding shattered infrastructure are unaccounted for while locals are left to contend with poverty toxic water and daily power blackouts ortiz we see how small. it is the land between twin rivers ancient day mesopotamia modern day iraq and in baghdad there's no shortage of ways in which water is used to wash cars to cream shop fronts to store freshly caught fish before their gutted for sale everything it
seems except drinking personally oh god nobody drinks the city would say because i know it's not clean since i knew i had to write on the book so you know what comes out to the hapless contaminated that makes us sick how can we dream can't. one. it is just one of the many services that still lagging in post-war iraq despite years of promises and billions of dollars spent on reconstruction many neighborhoods lack sewage systems there's no trash collection in some settlements there are barely any streets iraq's central power is sometimes on for as little as two hours a day this mess of wires is a common scene all across iraq it connects homes to private generators people have to buy electricity to cope with the hours of daily blackouts ten years after the war it's a symbol for much of what's wrong with iraq a crumbling infrastructure and reliable services and a tangled web of a walker sea and corruption. i don't want it the energy crisis has
meant more work for album area and electrician who says he now runs about four times as much as he did before the war the grid is in shambles and breakdowns are frequent but he says the government is simply not serious about fixing it. it's the citizens who suffer in the end not the government the services are so bad the power system has really deteriorated there were billions spent on fixing the grid but there's little to show for it. the government has promised improvements in public services but officials say it's a monumental task the infrastructure has been put to the neglected end of the previous regimes and the damage is enormous there is a need to rebuild everything that's required is tens of billions of dollars but the dollars are flowing along with and largely because of the oil that's what accounts for most of the revenue in iraq's one hundred nineteen billion dollar budget here at the college were fine reproduction had more than doubled in the here and lower
that that to go even higher growth while industry had been touted as one of the few bright spots in a country that has been plagued by little violence and rampant corruption transparency international ranks iraq is the eighth most corrupt country in the world which in part helps to explain why services are still lagging most of the reconstruction money was squandered through fraud and abuse just one example the government awarded one point seven billion dollars worth of fake electricity contracts it's a paradox that frustrates many iraqis theirs is one of the wealthiest pieces of land on earth but its people are some of the forest. nowhere is that contrast more stark when sheer the altai jihad landfill on the edge of baghdad many of the families living here have been displaced by the war but now they're waging a daily battle just to survive services are simply nonexistent conditions a horrible there are no schools for the kids who have no electricity no real houses
to get a drink of water. we have to travel for columbus's it's very difficult to live here for now they must remain among the refuse uncertain like the rest of iraq as to what will come on the winds of change lucie county baghdad iraq. the new renegade currency bitcoin has taken a bit of a hit. as america's financial heavy make a move on its developers we look at what makes people switch from conventional currencies to cyber monday. and flaws in a newly built british sobs are raising eyebrows in westminster as it's fear the u.k. is defense budget is turning into a multibillion pound black hole. pakistanis have gone to the polls and elected a new parliament what will the new government do domestically and in the area of foreign policy particularly washington's drone war with growing economic
dislocations in a very threatening taliban how can and should pakistan move forward and will the military continue to watch from the sidelines choose your language kill if we could with oh if you're going to. choose to use the consensus you can. choose the opinions that degrade to. choose the stories that impact your life choose me access to. good free. free. free free. free. free. free bird video for your media project free media r.t.s.
dot com. welcome back you're watching the weekly on our t.v. now britain is being an taken to task for failing to keep a close watch on how it spying technology is used a bahraini rights activist says her repressive government used to u.k. made equipment to keep tabs on her she's now taking the issue to london's high court the manufacturers insist the devices are designed for criminal investigations but privacy campaigners say the system is widely being abused take a look at the actual quitman itself the program is called the fin spy and it can perform a wide range of surveillance operations it works by infecting your computer and then recording your skype conversations and social media activity it can also take screenshots without your knowledge and access information on your hard drive a lot shahabi who filed in the court documents told r.t.
that digital surveillance has been spreading in bahrain since former high ranking u.k. police officer john yates became the security adviser there. the e-mails were disguised as if they were from journalists and were from other activists and then after we discovered after two months investigation of a technical analysis to try and. investigate what kind of information on what this software actually does we discovered there was a company called gamma international which sells this software to foreign governments so we assumed and we given the circumstances in which i received the e-mails and the nature of the e-mails this was a suspect this was sold to the bahraini government but we also know that the servers. received this information from the software is actually based in bahrain so the servers are currently in bahrain and they're being updated in bahrain which means that this is further evidence over the past two years particularly since british advisor john yates joined the bahraini security services
we have noticed the increase in the use of surveillance and the use of c.c.t.v. and the use of digital surveillance and there are very targeted arrests and in for infiltration amongst protests activists that are happening using the latest technology technologies and this is all happened since following on from the hiring of the recruitment of john yates and most of these companies that provide all of this technology are british now we know of at least thirty six so be maintained worldwide so now the this is a global operation gamma international has sold this software to at least twenty five governments and the us seems the use of the software seems to have no any type of restriction so this is turning into a global phenomenon and it's run by the private sector so we're looking increasingly at the commercialisation of digital surveillance which is even scarier
because it's very difficult to regulate. it has a been a turbulent week for the digital currency bitcoin which has seen the funds of its major operators seized by the us government bitcoin has been on a market roller coaster recently increasing about eight times in value in april before slowly deflating to its current price of about one hundred twenty two dollars per unit here's how the cyber currency it works users must first install a cyber wallet into a computer or into a cellphone device they can then transfer bitcoins from that wallet to the wallet of another user for a small charge or no charge at all and without banking mediators now from a distance it may resemble pay pal there are other systems like it but a key difference is anonymity all transactions are encrypted and even untraceable this aspect is a subject of much debate with some fearing that bitcoin itself could be abused by
those selling the weapons or even drugs and economics professor richard wolfe says people are looking for ways of avoiding traditional banking and hard currencies as in recent years they've brought nothing but economic instability and inequality i think the fear is that conventional methods of finance are so corrupted and so looked upon with a negative mentality that masses of people are inventing ways and there are dozens of them to get around to evade to avoid some of them are of course criminals they want to avoid for those reasons but the majority of people involved are really expressing a sense of economics out of control of an economic system that isn't working that is making the inequality unbearable and everyone is looking for something that will allow them to escape the rules as they are. well now on to some other international
news making headlines for you this hour. in tunisia a violent clash between police and supporters of a hardline islamist group that left one protester dead and several others injured tens of thousands took to the streets of the capital tunis in defiance of a government ban on the ballot write police moved in firing tear gas to disperse the demonstrators who fought back by hurling rocks. movement which openly supports al qaeda was the most radical to emerge in tunisia since the two thousand and eleven arab spring uprising. korea has fired a short range projectile off its east coast as part of a so-called test that follows an earlier triple launch that put the neighboring south back on alert for an analyst say the missiles have a range of one hundred twenty kilometers the u.n. secretary general has appealed to north korea to avoid any further missile tests.
and british members of parliament warned this week that the country may not be able to bear the brunt of its inflated it defense equipment budget london's plan is to spend almost one hundred sixty billion pounds on military hardware over the next decade much of that is being splashed out on a new class of nuclear submarines even though the vessels leave much to be desired their first reports. the cutting edge in military technology. every decade tens of billions of pounds in the making these of britain's new class of hunter killer submarines and they've been making waves that lead to. serious problems from ground to. corrosion this is. the astute and. the damning description is a far cry from what britain's ministry of defense has hailed as one of the most technologically advanced machines in the world as impressive as she sounded on
paper. launch into the public sphere it's not been an easy one the series of leaks intelligence has become clear that it. could run deeper. is that. the design started in the mid ninety's. you know electronics. with all the electronics. present time to try and keep up with that and you need to think about replacing equipment. as complete problem. in the northeast of england in barrow in furness is now the only site in the u.k. that designs builds and test submarines and that work forms the backbone of the
economy here the current owner of the shipyard is defense systems not without its critics it's a company that shrouds itself in secrecy and it didn't disappoint when it came to addressing the alleged catalogue of errors with the submarine program having been beset by these design for allegations. we asked the aide to give us their side of the story but they declined to comment. is perhaps a nice surprise with the government seven astute class submarines only two are in the water with one still being built any one of the things that become part of the obviously the people be. very protective. and you preach. about the problems and that sort of information. it is difficult for you come to expect an understanding and there's a distinction between the protectiveness and secretiveness of local people compared
to seek to the north of the conflict and that's because in terms of the local people and people there protecting them because this is their heritage stand history and from the perspective you understand they are being that because the commercial reasons that's the reason that they're being paid x. amount of money to build and design something the local pride here in the submarines is evident but even the ministry of defense is being forced into embarrassing admissions about what they've turned teething troubles. really how. do we continue to produce in this part of submarines or do we get it right and then start again the problem here is this is if they stop. short of submarine attack submarine. and that means that strategy. really is quite serious with the launch of the third class submarine still some way on the next couple of years that this
project. sink or swim time. artsy barren furnace in the north of england. well the united europe or montrose wearing a bit thin for some parts of the social one of germany's richest regions go it alone when we come back. although i was born after the vietnam era i remember t.v. discussions about that buddhist monk who burned himself to death as a form of protest the commentators on the news said that people there just have a different mindset that westerners could never understand you know which is probably true but they were implying that people in the west are just different and would never use this absolutely extreme form of protest which is also probably true
until just recently with the cost of electricity exceeding the income of the average bulgarian and a new government coming to power that looks exactly like the old government that collapsed at least six bulgarians have used self-immolation as a very desperate and extreme form of protest but why kristen ghodsee a professor at bowdoin college who is extensively talked about here and protesters claims that those who self-immolating are just incredibly desperate and cannot feed their own children and that people are actually becoming a stealth for communism because at least that system at the people's basic needs the current democratic system from the populace perspective according to her just cycles through a few new crooks every few years although it does get media attention and you may be feeling desperate suicide is never an answer the more living bulgarians the better ball gary's chances believe me but that's just my opinion.
campaign it for bavarian independence wilford shiloh thank you for talking to us. why should the variac go it alone. because bavaria is if a free state by virtue of its history economic power population size and constitutional set up ever since the federal republic of germany was established in one nine hundred forty nine the very it has lost considerably in independence authority and competencies just as the european union was assuming more and more powers i would like to change that what would be the benefits of an independent feria. also spoke with its population of twelve and a half million varia is germany's second most populated state after north rhine-westphalia it also has the strongest economy and boasts outstanding progress in science and technology so why can't a state like that take charge of its own future if we look at the european union
twenty out of its twenty seven member states are in faery it's above area in terms of population economic power and efficiency why can't we have more control of our political and economic standing in europe. how do you see bavaria going about trying to achieve independence. and it would about it in. there's a brilliant democratic solution for that the people should decide the bavarian constitution attributes an especially high status to any referendum and there have been referendums in bavaria in history certainly i would never agree to an independent varia that would not be conscious about its responsibilities as part of germany and as parts of europe but the various should have more say as regards its political and economic status this is all the more important since brussels as well as the lands that have been continuously taking all new competency as in the past decade.